New site on trial - Incentria

Following the failure of clicks4cents.com (see here) we are now trialling incentria.com. Whilst generally accepted as a good, paying ptc site we are (as always!) going to delve into the actual figures. Incentria.com is part of the North Owl group of sites which also runs the ptc site clicksia.com and the emoneyspace.com forum and community.

We are going to begin by looking at the paid-to-view advertising element of this site. The minimum payout is advertised to be $1.00 with earnings up to $0.02 per ad viewed. As always with these kind of websites, you will only see an ad at the max rate maybe once every 10 years! Analysing the numbers from the first few days of using this site we expect our first dollar to take the following:

Current earning rates for $1

Views to $1	929
Viewing time to $1	2 hours 46 minutes
Weeks to $1	10 weeks

This is a poor rate of return for the time invested but is better than a number of ad viewing sites we have used. We will return to these earning rates again in a future post as we explore the site further.

Click 4 Cents - Payment Proof and Verdict

Clicks 4 Cents - Verdict and Payment Proof

We have been continuing to explore PTC sites at paidtowebsurf.com and the good news is that we have another site that has paid out. That site is clicks4cents.com and the payment proof is at the bottom of this article. We gave some positive initial thoughts on this particular site in a previous post (see here). In general, that positive opinion has remained. Below we give brief bullet point lists of our closing remarks about this site.

Positives

• IT PAYS!
• The site admin appeared positive and professional in our dealings with them.
• The ads were consistent with between 9 and 15 ads being available each day.
• The minimum pay-out is $1, we got there in 12 weeks. That is a lot quicker than other sites that can take years before you can withdraw (see here).

Negatives

• It is a low rate of return; we earned only $0.0012 per click on average. Very rarely did we have any of the advertised $0.005 ads. Other sites can double that rate (see here), but those sites tend to have much higher minimum pay-out levels.
• You cannot micro test referrals with money you have earned on the site. Sites like Neobux allow you to rent referrals using your account earnings (see our PTC experiment page.). To rent 10 referrals costs $1.50 at the time of writing; and you have to put your own money in to get them. It would take 4 months to recoup that loss if your rented referrals do not perform well.

Overall this is a good ptc site. We put a few minutes of our time each day into the site and got paid after a few weeks. We trust the site and will continue to use it. Our hope is that as it grows it will implement some of the Neobux-esque rental option which will up the rate of earning and add that element of strategy that we enjoy about Neobux. 

Untrustworthy Sites

There are a lot of untrustworthy sites out there.  I know because I test them and report on them.  Some stay and others disappear.

Of course there are different reasons for sites "going bump", sometimes it is because they are scam sites and other times it is bad management, planning or economics that has let them down.

"BuxAdNet" - an advertising site for Bux sites (PTC sites) had really bad management.  The owner never made any money but neither did the people who helped keep the site active.  Ultimately the site died - in fact don't bother looking for it because it has gone, alone with the sister PTCRankings.

Other sites you can look at and think "no, thanks" because they look too good to be true (in which case they usually are) or don't have the experience.  Ragabux and IconBux fit that mould for me.  I'm not saying they are scam sites, I'm just saying I don't trust them and because this is my site they make it on to the untrustworthy sites list.

Do your research, including checking the pages on here and let me know what you think.

NeoBux Payment Proof

I've been sat on this payment proof for ages, because I've already mentioned it in the "PTC Experiment" - Oh, I know that's a couple of weeks out-of-date, but don't worry the updates are coming very soon as data and analysis has proven very enlightening.

So here, it is... NeoBux Payment Proof (click on the image to see full size)

PTCBox Payment Proof

One of the Paid-to-Click (PTC) sites we've been trialling is PTCBox, which doesn't really look or feel like a lot of the "Bux" sites out there, because this one is made to last.  It won't make you rich, but they will pay and they seem very trusting.

You can see the payment proof below and they've been add to our trusted sites list too.  Well done PTCBox.

We'll keep an idea on this site for a little while longer and make sure they can remain on our list.

Superpoints

Everyday I log on my favourite forum I learn about new sites (today it was Amazon Mechanical Turk)! So today I'm going to write about a site I found recently that you might be interested in - or it could just be a site I never knew about but everyone else did and was slow on the uptake. This site has been going and paying since 2007, so it probably is just me missing this one, but anyway...

Have your heard of Superman? Supersoakers? How about Superpoints? Well  is a site with a difference... it's a fun site that pays well and combines Paid To Click (PTC), surveys, Paid To Watch, reviews and a lot more.

How the Site Works
You join the site preferably by using my link and then complete you profile information. This is a very quick step (less than 2 minutes) and means that you will automatically upgrade your "level" once you hit some pretty easy to hit targets - note here, that you will never have to put a penny into Superpoints - even the upgrades are free! Once you've completed your profile you can checkout the numerous offers (which include sign-ups, videos, surveys, etc) and most importantly you can play the Superlucky Button.

What is the Superlucky Button?
The Superlucky Button, found under the "Get pints" tab, is a big colourful button that you can press (up to 30 times per day, increasing to 50 and then 100 with upgrades). The button decides whether you have won points or not. The win ratio is 8% - this is huge, with an average of 3 points per win you get 7.2 points per day.

What are Points Worth?
Points can be redeemed for anything from vouchers, iPods, MacBooks and even cold hard cash. Each point can be converted on a 1:1 ratio for cents. That's right... this site will pay you 7.2 cents per day for clicking a button! That's better than any legit PTC site I know of. What's more.. complete a few surveys and you can earn quite a bit of money on this site in a very short space of time.

Other Benefits
Another great advantage to this site is that any points your referrals win on the Superlucky Button (after you have at least 2 referrals) you also win!

Please let us know your experiences with Superpoints or any other money earning sites.

PTC68 - Initial thoughts

This post provides a quick review of the site ptc68.com which we have been testing.

Website

The website itself is good. Easy to navigate, nicely designed and responsive. Account statistics have a good level of detail to learn about how much you have earned and where referrals have come from.

We do like to know how active the forums are. Forums can be a good gauge of how active the site members are. However, there is no actual forum on the site itself. You are directed to a more general forum which discusses all kinds of PTC sites but not much of the discussion is about ptc68.com itself. This is a slight concern.

Earning Area

We have had a steady stream of ads usually receiving 4 standard ads and 2-3 micro ads each day. Standard ads last for 30 seconds earning $0.005. Micro ads last for 3 seconds earning $0.0005. At the time of writing we have earn $0.7745 from viewing 296 ads. This works out at roughly $0.0026 an ad, double the rate of clicks4cents.com (see here), and is a quite a good rate for a PTC site.

The main draw back is that the minimum payout level for this site is $10, quite high compared to other PTC sites we have used so far. To hit this level will take approximately 550 days, that is over one and half years of ad viewing.  In comparison clicks4cents.com has a $1 minimum which takes about 12 weeks to achieve. 

Growth Potential

Looking at the site statistics we have, at the time of writing, 2783 members and a total paid out of $338.32. Given the minimum cash out level is $10 with a 4% commission charge that means a maximum of about 35 people could have actually taken any money from this site. That is less than 1.25% of the members. This causes us to question whether we should continue with this site.

We are not questioning whether the site is legitimate, just whether or not it could be profitable. If we are to put time into creating referrals for the site can we earn in the long term? Would the people we refer see potential in this site to earn money and continue clicking the ads? With the amount of time needed to hit the $10 minimum we have large doubts.

There is also the option to rent referrals; ptc68.com only allows the rental of referrals that have been active within the last 3 days and have 50 minimum clicks. For standard members the rental price is $0.3 per referral. The rental period is not quoted on the site although you can earn up to a maximum $0.008 per referral click. Bearing in mind we only make $0.0026 per ad click it is unlikely the clicks from our referrals would ever be this high.

One of the most the most frustrating things about the ptc68.com rental model is that you can not use the current earnings you have made to rent referrals. You have to fund your rental balance separately. That means you have to put a minimum of $5 into the site without being able to micro-test the quality of rentals. This is in contrast to the neobux.com model which allows you to use your current earnings. Thus you never have to put your own money into neobux.com site to micro-test rental strategies and earnings. 

Conclusions

The ptc68.com website itself is as good as any other PTC site and the ads have been constant. The basic earnings per ad is also extremely competitive. The main question is whether or not you will put in the time to get to the minimum payout. You need to be committed for a considerable time period, as do your referrals, to get to that minimum level. We will be continuing our experiment with this site and will report again in the coming months.

Clicks 4 Cents - Initial thoughts

We have recently begun to trial the site clicks4cents.com and this post reports our initial findings.

Website

The website, whilst not going to win any design awards, is extremely functional, responsive and easy to navigate. The "Earnings Area" is what we are most interested in and and we have 3 options to earn. These are pay-to-click (PTC), pay-to-sign-up (PTSU) and the click exchange. Given we are currently only exploring earning using PTC this is our area of main focus.

One slight concern about the site, given the advertised 28,820 members at the time of writing, is that the forums seem slightly inactive. Forums are good indicators for how many of the advertised members are still active on the site (a concern if we wish to later want to purchase or rent referrals). That said, the forum admin is very active and seems to respond quickly to any queries generated.

Rate of Ads/Earnings

The PTC area shows the adverts available to be viewed. On average we have received 11 ads a day. You have to view the ad for 10 seconds before the earnings are credited to your account. At the time of writing we have viewed 237 ads earning $0.276 (approx $0.0012 per ad). To get to the $1.00 minimum payout, at the current earnings rate, will take about 12 weeks. The total amount of time taken to view the ads will approximately be 2 hours.

Growth Opportunities

At an earning rate of $0.50 per hour we would like to increase this as soon as possible. To really make money, as with most of these PTC sites, you need referrals. There is the option to purchase lifetime referrals. This is in contrast to NeoBux, say, where you rent referrals for for 30 day periods. We currently do not think the maths works with lifetime referrals and will not be pursuing this option for growth. We will be giving much more thought to the referral models used by PTC sites in future posts

Current Verdict

Overall we like clicks4cents.com. The ads have been constant and the minimum payout is relatively low at only $1.00. We will definitely be continuing with the site until this target is reached. However, it is a slow rate of return and the options for purchasing referrals do not seem value for money. We do not currently see ourselves continuing with this site beyond the first payout.

Paid To Click (PTC) Sites (part 2 of 3)

Read part 1 here. 

The vast majority of Paid To Click (PTC) sites either pay very little or go bust after a few months, because of a poor business model.  However, there are a few good ones out there and we will be investigating them as this website develops.

For now, I'm only going to talk about 2 PTC sites: NeoBux and ClixSense, who have both been around for a number of years and have proven track records as being profitable for both the users and the site.

Firstly, NeoBux is a site where you can rent an unlimited number of referrals, dependent on your membership type - and this is only kept under-control by the increasing costs for renting above 4,000 referrals and the limit on a weekly maximum.  Their innovative "rented referrals" means that anyone can make be successful, it just takes time, patience and strategy!

Many people use this site as an investment, following set strategies to gain a decent return on investment, in fact it is the casual user who will see least benefits from NeoBux as their business model is geared towards offering perks to people who pay for better membership packages.

ClixSense doesn't allow rented referrals.  The only referrals you have are those you directly recruit (or your recruited referral recruits - up to 8 levels deep!).  This means that their are people on the site now who have a hugely successful model.  And if you are new to the site, it is hit and miss as to whether you'll be successful.

I am currently running a PTC Experiment with both of these sites and in part 3 will explain the strategies I am employing for each!

Paid To Click (PTC) Sites (part 1 of 3)

Paid To Click (PTC) sites are a very popular way of earning money on the internet.  Basically you either login to a site to view advertisements or have them emailed to you.  You click on the advert, hang around for anything from 2 seconds to a minute and get paid.

They work on the basic premise that the more you see an advert the more likely you are to visit that site and see what all the fuss is about.  Indeed, many people use paid to click sites as a useful tool for finding other sites.

PTC sites make the majority of their money from "renting referrals", advertising or providing "premium" services at a cost/subscription.

There are some pros and cons from this type of site and I'll outline a number of these below, before explaining how to make much more money from them, in the third part of this write-up.

Pros:

• There are typically no start-up costs to you - this supports my belief that you should never pay to earn!
• The process is pretty quick and its possible to click on 50-100 adverts in 30 minutes, earning anything from a few cents to a few dollars.
• Most of these sites have "games" or "prize boards" where you can win extra cash from playing them.
• The popular ones are legit and have proven track records of paying, either via PayPal or AlertPay.
• Most of them have referral/affiliate programs, which is where the big money is (but more on this in the next post).
• Used correctly you can make mega-money on these sites.  I'm not talking a nice little earner, I'm talking above average annual pay - off one site.  Have 2 or more of these sites ramped up to the same level and you can be working 10 hours a week and earning close to 6 figures.

Cons:

• These sites can be slow to get going - you have to be willing to put the effort in early when money is trickling in.  The gold is buried deep, so you have to dig for a while before you can see the rewards.  If you don't want to put the time in, these sites aren't for you.
• You can be in fierce competition for referrals, so you need to have a game plan.
• Often their aren't many adverts per day (maybe only $0.10-$0.25, so you need referrals to really make it).

In the next part I'm going to explain how the following sites operate:

• NeoBux - Probably the market leader when it comes to PTC sites.
• ClixSense - One of the other biggest PTC sites, but quite different from NeoBux.

These sites have been chosen because they are all different from each other and they will be the basis for Paid To Web Surf's PTC Experiment.

View part 2 here.

Snap Dollars Income Update 7th Feb 2012

Update: I've read some posts recently saying Snap Dollars isn't paying.  This site as, with all will be tested and reviewed.  Checkout the "certified sites" page to see what sites Paid To Web Surf trusts and which ones we don't!

Hi all,

I thought I'd let you know how one of my streams is doing, so that it can be tracked over time.  I've selected Snap Dollars because their system updates in real time, they have referral rewards and generally all sorts of decent offers on their site.

So, I've done a few surveys on their site, had on referral, which gives both me and that person $5!  If you want $5 click on the banner below this paragraph.  And done a pay to click emails.

Click on the banner above for $5!

So far I have $18.76 in my account and that's probably about 1 hour of work! What's even better is that there are loads of other offers on there where I know I can earn even more on my next hour on the site, so expect quite a big leap on the next update - probably in a week or two.